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 BOGUS JEWISH ROOTS FOR THE PALESTINIANS!!! Aug 21, 2009
Israel has seen it all!! Bogus, completely false Jewish roots claimed by Ethiopians only to immigrate to Israel for economic reasons!! Same with bogus Jewish claims by people from India (Bne Menashe), again only to immigrate to Israel for economic reasons!!
What is next? Now, we are told by this leftist Israeli author that the Palestinians have in fact Jewish roots?!! Of course, these claimed Jewish roots are completely bogus!!
What is the purpose of this deception by this leftist Israeli author Tsvi Misinai?
Surely, the author is another hardcore leftist Israeli revisionist who wants to impose, insinuate mentally first (short-term!) peace on Israelis, AT ANY COSTS, despite the fact that Israel does not have any Palestinian partners to make long-term (and even short-term) peace with!! The dove on the cover of his book is a clear indication of this goal as well what he wrote in his book.
This leftist Israeli author knows very well that Israel will not continue forever to live with a group of Muslim settlers (the so-called Palestinians) whose only goal is to create a Muslim state in place of the state of Israel and to kill its entire Jewish population in a final war of "liberation"!! These are the goals of Hamas and even of Fatah when they speak in Arabic to their supporters; in fact, these are the goals of all Palestinians.
Therefore, the only bogus, completely invented idea that he could come up with in order to impose on Israelis any kind of (short-term) peace is to invent Jewish roots for these Palestinians!!!
IF THE ISRAELIS COULD BE CONVINCED (MENTALLY FIRST), BY THE NUMEROUS REPEATING OF A LIE LIKE THESE BOGUS JEWISH ROOTS THAT PALESTINIANS WOULD HAVE, THEN ISRAELIS WOULD PERHAPS RESIGN TO ACCEPT PEACE, NO MATTER THE COSTS, NO MATTER THE SHORT-TERM AND SHORT-LIVED PEACE, AND NO MATTER THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO PALESTINIAN PARTNERS FOR PEACE (LONG-TERM OR EVEN SHORT-TERM)!!
Has this author asked the Palestinians what they think of his idea that supposedly Palestinians would have Jewish roots? No! Not one Muslim Palestinian would even think of claiming to have Jewish roots of any kind!! For Palestinians, this idea of having Jewish roots would disgust and horrify them!!
To be a Jew is not linked to genetics!! It is first a faith. There are (a few, rare) Jews who are Christians, even (very rare) Jews who became Muslims! Even if the Muslim Palestinians of Israel had Jewish roots, that would not change the fact that they are Muslims! A few of the worst anti-Semite and anti-Israel people are Muslim Jews!! There is currently even a former American Jew from California (Adam Yahiye Gadahn) who is part of Al-Qaeda and who is virulently against the State of Israel and against anything Jewish (he is the only Jew who has reached such a pinnacle of blindness)!
More, even if these (fanatic) Muslim Palestinians had Jewish roots (they do not have Jewish roots!), would that help in any way to forfeit their goals of creating a Muslim state in place of the Jewish state of Israel and to kill its entire Jewish population? NO!!!
What proofs does this leftist Israeli author have concerning these claimed Jewish roots? None! Just extremely inconclusive and very weak claims that cannot lead any rational and critical thinker to even conclude, in any way, that the Palestinians would have genuine Jewish roots!!
Repeat a lie many times and, at the end, people will believe it. The Ethiopians in Israel did that by claiming deceptively and dishonestly Jewish roots and the Israelis stupidly now have, somehow, been completely duped despite the fact that not a single Ethiopian can prove rationally and with facts to have Jewish roots of any kind (all were Christians in Ethiopia)!
By claiming Jewish roots for these Muslim settlers, the Palestinians, he wants to "force", insinuate (mentally first) on Israelis a (short-term) peace despite the fact that Palestinians do not want (long-term and even short-term) peace!
Insinuate a perversion or a lie in someone's mind and, sooner or later, the perversion or the lie will take a life of its own and become a truth in the mind of the person who corrupted his/her mind with it!! Here the perversion, the lie is to claim that Palestinians have Jewish roots when no rational facts support this false claim!!
This leftist Israeli author is another disgusting leftist Israeli revisionist who will not spare us lies to support the Israeli left goal: peace at any costs!!
True to several other revisionist leftist Israelis (revisionist "archaeologists", revisionist "historians", etc.) who have claimed deceptively several false facts, all in order to try to weaken the eternal and millennium-old connection of the Jewish people to their ancestral Land of Israel with the only goal of imposing, insinuating a false idea in Israelis' minds by forcing on Israelis (short-term) peace even though the so-called Palestinians do not want (long-term and even short-term) peace in the first place!!
Therefore, these leftist Israelis act deceptively like Mohammed, the so-called "prophet" of Islam, did, as he was a master deceiver thief and murderer of the vilest kind when he was alive (Read: "The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion" by Robert Spencer to get the facts on Mohammed and understand why I called this Mohammed a master deceiver thief and murderer).
The Arab countries expulsed their Jews at the creation of Israel and this leftist Israeli author knows very well that the State of Israel will be forced, sooner rather than later, to do the same with the Palestinians by expulsing them from Israel once and for all! By inventing false Jewish roots for these Palestinians, this leftist Israeli author hopes that the State of Israel will reconsider the idea of expulsing from Israel these Muslim settlers, the so-called Palestinians (there is no Palestinian people, only Muslim settlers!) and that the State of Israel will try to impose a (short-term) peace on the Israelis despite the fact that there is no Palestinian partners for long-term (and even short-term) peace!!
Who are the Palestinians? Muslim settlers who came after being exhorted by Arab nationalists to fill in the vast area of land that lacked Muslim inhabitants in the Jewish state formed by the British mandate in order to create Jordan inside what was, at the time, the Jewish state formed by the Palestine of the British mandate.
IN THE 1882 CENSUS FIGURES OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, IT WAS RECORDED THAT IN THE ENTIRE LAND OF ISRAEL (NOT ONLY CURRENT ISRAEL BUT ALSO ALL JORDAN AND EVEN A BIG PART OF SYRIA), THERE WERE ONLY 141,000 MUSLIMS, BOTH ARAB AND NON-ARAB. THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF JEWS TOO BUT THEY HELD FOREIGN PASSPORTS AND THEREFORE THEY WERE NOT RECORDED IN THIS CENSUS. This census is clearly mentioned in "Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters (recommended reading) and in other books; it is a historical fact that cannot be denied.
From 1882 up to today, the number of inhabitants in the Land of Israel (Jordan, Israel and even part of Syria, and more) increased dramatically and this population growth can be explained only by the fact that a huge number of Muslim inhabitants moved inside the Land of Israel following the exhortation by Arab nationalists to fill in with Muslims the Land of Israel that was nearly empty of inhabitants around 1882.
Therefore, contrary to what the so-called Palestinians (Muslim settlers in fact) sometimes claim falsely, the Palestinians (of Israel and of anywhere else) do not have any connection of any kind to the Land of Israel for 99% of them (the 1% remaining are the tiny 1% of Muslims who lived on the Palestine of the British mandate at the time it was given to the Jews)!! They are descendants of Muslim settlers who moved to the Land of Israel only for political purposes, to prevent Jews from settling on their ancestral Land of Israel.
More, Jordan is a bogus state created by the British Empire following Arab nationalists' requests when the Jewish people was given as their homeland the entire Palestine of the British Mandate that was, at the time it was given, nearly completely empty of inhabitants.
More, the deductions on ancestry based on genetics are based only on probabilities and therefore they cannot be certain, sure at all.
More, you cannot be certain at all that if a certain gene is present in a particular person and in a particular group of people, it means FOR SURE that there is a kind of ancestry between this person and this group of people. And that is where the problem lies in claiming ancestry with the Jewish people for a person who has a particular gene, it does not LOGICALLY, rationally means that this person has any kind of ancestry with the Jewish people!! It only means that this person has the same gene than the Jewish people and nothing more conclusive can be deducted logically, rationally!
This book is based on lies and, worse, it uses deception of the vilest kind to try to sell us the leftist Israeli agenda of the day: to "impose mentally" first (short-term) peace on the Israelis, no matter the costs, even if it means claiming what would repulse all Palestinians, that Palestinians would have Jewish roots and therefore Israel should resign to accept them in Israel long-term and make peace at all costs with them because, basically, they are Jews and all be well in the future with Jewish Palestinians, isn't it?!!
Otherwise, the alternative for Israel would be to expulse the Palestinians from Israel once and for all, as the Arab countries did at the creation of the State of Israel. The consequences of such an expulsion of Palestinians from Israel would surely not lead to peace short-term but maybe it might be the only hope for Israel to have peace long-term in a distant future!
A book that uses deception and lies to further a particular agenda (the Israeli left agenda of peace at any costs) deserves zero!!
 Palestine/Israel Jun 20, 2008
Very interesting, brings a wnhole other approach to an age old issue. It certainly sheds an interesting light on the current situation.
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 "Palestinian" redemption May 16, 2008
The history part: Throughout history, the people of Israel has undergone multiple holocausts carried out on two fronts: physical extermination holocausts and religious forced conversion holocausts. Physical holocaust of millions of Jews occurred from the days of the Assyrians, Babylonians, then Romans, Arabs, Crusadors, through Spaniards, Kozaks and Germans. Not to speak about the continuous discriminations and killing Jews all over the world by individuals and communities in pogroms etc. in smaller scales.
Most often, the holocaust came in combination of an extermination and a choice of forced conversion. For all intents and purposes, the number of Jews who were forced to convert to the conquerors' religion of choice equals the number of Jews who refused to convert and knowingly chose death (this is known to have happened for example in Spain).
According to different calculations, were these holocausts not have happened, the Jewish nation would be numbered today upwards of one half billion people! It must be noted that half of those Jews did not disappear from the Jewish faith due to death but rather due to forced conversions as a result of fear from death.
One particular group of Jews, in the land of Israel, that was forced to convert in order to save their lives, did so from the fear of the Islamic sword. The Jewish community that remained in the Holy Land was forced to relinquish their religion in exchange for Islam, which in philosophical values was close to that of Judaism. In addition, in Islam, there is the common value with Judaism of the single deity. It is for these reasons that it was easier for the Jews of the land of Israel to claim an acceptance of Islam, when all that was required of them was to declare a faith to a single deity and the belief of Mohammed as a prophet.
It was the hope of these individuals, who surrendered to the threat of death by converting, that within a short period of time this decree would be lifted and that they would be permitted to return to their original faith - Judaism. To their disappointment, this did not happen and as part of the forced conversion, they were forced to educate their children in accordance with the Muslim culture, causing the loss of their Jewish identity. However, this forced conversion was not always successful in erasing these people's memories of their Jewish origin. As it turns out, these people remained in the land of Israel while the various conquering armies left, leaving behind a considerably small demographic influence.
The solution part: This book brings up the basic problems within the Jewish identity: does it rely on physical inheritance or on a mental and idological one? (Obviously, if it relies exclusively on the physical, a Palestinian might be automatically considered to be a Jew.) This question is widely discussed in the Jewish religious literature where the conclusion is a compromise between the two approaches.
In reality, one's origins influence his views and these influence over the generations his origins. It turns out that some method of a minimal merger of the two, with a strong emphasis on the mental and idological ingredient in order to determine if one belongs to the Jewish brotherhood that according to the Halakha is the base for the right to live in the Holy Land. This situation in the case in our hands here is not similar, though there is a value in stating that the community referred to as "Palestinian" is in its origin a Hebrew one. There is a place for reconnecting this community with the Hebrew culture from which it was forcefully removed by the Islamic sword. In fact, there is stipulation within the Jewish religion for welcoming back to Judaism those who converted away from it by force rather than choice. A natural occurrence when a person becomes aware that part of his ancestral history includes a religion and culture different than his current ones is his desire to investigate this background. It is not so hard to believe that upon learning that the change away from the original religion to the current one was forced, this person might be inclined to re-examine his current education and views with a new perspective.
In addition, the proper treatment of the "Palestinian" community and the calculated welcoming of it to the Hebrew culture may bring about a radical change of cultural character of these people. Careful cultural measures could bring about the emancipation of this miserable community, and to defuse the ticking time bomb towards peace in the world as in this community the most dangerous views of Islamic terrorism were developed, dangerous to the survival of humanity. The education of this community with a greater emphasis on peacefulness, through the teaching of basic lifestyle commandments (called in Judaism"the seven commandments for the sons of Noah") as a first step towards positive cultural evolution, will most probably heavily contribute towards bringing about calm to the world of extreme Islam.
Rabbi Dov Stein
Sanhedrin's Secretary
dbtc@actcom.com
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