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5 of 6 found the following review helpful:
 Reviewers Should Review the Actual Book May 30, 2009
By Colleen D. Clements
Review should have some standards. They should be accurate and they should look at all the probabilities without bias. Those are hard standards. The two other reviews of this book fail at both.
First, the subtitle of the book clearly indicates it is about the conflict between the Eurasian Culture heterodoxy and the European orthodoxy. A reader should not be surprised. The connection between the Eurasian Culture and the Order of the Dragon is made clear. For example, the Bosnian Eccelsia Drugunthiae is the religious/metaphysical wing of that Culture, and The Order of the Dragon or the Lizard League of Culm is the military wing. The link with the Draco Constellation makes the Dragon symbol clear as well. That synthesis and the ongoing repression against the Eurasian or Dragon Culture is a new way of looking at both the Order and the Culture of which it was part.
Secondly, the other reviewer states falsehoods, not facts. The references are from very reliable sources, including the Journal Science, academic books by historians of good repute, experts in archaeology, etc. The references indicate the data contained in them, not necessarily the conclusions of the authors, unless stated. The Barbers, for example, do develop a method for the naturalistic interpretation of ancient texts, and they are reputable enough to have gotten a good review in the Journal Science. Stoyanov's data logically lead to the conclusion of the book. Stoyanov himself was heavily criticized for suggesting in his first book that his data showed a unified culture transmitted across time and place. In the second book, at the very end, he tried to construct an argument that there was no such unified culture/religious system. His argument failed, as does the argument of his critic from the first book. The Order of the Dragon mentions this, and philosophically analyzes Stoyanov's argument. That argument requires the following premises: There can be no separation into multiple sects in a unified system. There can be no variance, no matter how small, of litury or ritual in an ongoing system. Both premises are contrary to facts if Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or Marxism are analyzed using the same premises. There can be no unified system across time and place, because systems are dynamic and change/grow. So the argument fails on fact and logic. The author uses this reference and others for the reliable data they contain. There would be no point in writing this book if all the references agreed on a conclusion from that data. What is different is that this book attempts a synthesis from many areas of research, multicultural perspectives, and a wide time range.
The reviewer also slams the style of The Order of the Dragon. The author's journal articles and other academic works use a more formal, stilted style that is grammatically pure but deadly to read for a broad audience. The change to a more flexible style using some poetic license was deliberate. Style is not the main point of writing; substance is.
However, the reviewer may give away her real concern about this book. She is appalled that the author has depicted Satan as the "good guy." Unfortunately, she misses one of the main points of the book, heavily emphasized and specifically stated. The ideas of "good guy" vs. "bad guy" are nonsense ideas. There can logically be no "all-good" or "all-evil" guy, and the ancient pre-Vedic and Vedic literature realized that. Only Zarathustra got that terribly confused. The idea of gods and devils makes no sense if they are all-good or all-bad. This implies that the Ecclesiae in Bosnia had maintained the ancient culture fairly well, and their Satanael was on equal moral footing with the Abramic god. The Yezidi to the current time still maintain that, calling the opposer Melek Taus. There are many other names: Apollo, Rudra-Shiva, Ahriman, Erlik the Diver, Loki, Enki, Seth, Lucifer, etc. These names are part of a set using the class word "satan," which means anyone who opposes. A fair reading of The Order of the Dragon, and a reading of the author's new book, The White Island and the Black Book, would provide a very logical argument for this. However, the demonization of these ancient sky beings pervades our European Culture and separates us from our roots in far northern Eurasia. The reviewer contributes to this suppression, which is unfortunate but not unexpected. Systems theory requires balanced forces, with the right to reconciliation.
At least, this reviewer got the author's sex right.
Uta
1 of 2 found the following review helpful:
Dragons have always been with us. Aug 12, 2009
By Carla Heimerl
"C Heimerl"
I enjoyed this book because it ties in nicely with David Icke's ideas that we are a product of an alien reptilian race. The author waded through complex and ancient materials to bring to light ideas that would otherwise be left hidden, and perhaps missed by the general public. The history we read in the history books it just one very narrow point of view. I give the author credit for having the guts to write the book to begin with, I am sure there were plenty of people who said she was a crazy person, but what do they know other than their narrow world view?
Dragons/reptiles turn up in many ancient cultures, and a growing number of people believe this was not just fantasy.
Some people believe that humans were gentically created by an alien race from the Draco consetllation. Many ancient cultures support this idea.
I think we should all keep an open mind and not be so quick with the criticism. Remember that at one time the world was thought to be flat by the finest minds on the planet.
I would tell anyone who enjoyed this book to get "Children of the Matrix" by David Icke. Even if you think this is all a lot of poo, it is still a good exercise for keeping an open mind and thinking...."what if?".
6 of 10 found the following review helpful:
 Simply Awful May 13, 2009
By Laura Knight-Jadczyk
This book was sent to me by a friend who knew my interest in untangling the true from the false in history. The title was promising...
What a huge disappointment. The book is full of assumptions, (most of them illogical or "not even wrong") and relies on many questionable sources. Where she does refer to reliable sources, it is clear that her understanding of what those sources actually said is less than minimal. She uses them even when she creates scenarios that are totally opposite to the data that her source supplies. Being familiar with the work of Yuri Stoyanov, I noticed this immediately. I simply can't imagine how anybody could read the works she references and come up to the conclusions she has come to unless they are suffering from some sort of learning disability. It's like dyslexia of the mind ... Somehow she got the idea that "the other god", i.e. Satan, was the good guy all along...
It would be a labor of Hercules - cleaning the Augean stables - to try to go through all that is wrong with this book so I'll just stick to the one thing that encompasses everything else: the awful way it is written.
I don't think I have ever read a book so badly written. It's written as a sort of "stream of consciousness" frequently interrupted by complex and irrelevant parenthetical remarks. The grammar is atrocious, and not because I'm a stickler, but because it makes it almost impossible to read. What is the subject of the sentence? Sometimes, it arrives at the end as though the author remembered that maybe the reader isn't telepathic and maybe she had better tell us what the flight of fancy is about.
In short, just don't even bother. If you do, don't say you weren't warned.
2 of 6 found the following review helpful:
 Very little about the Order of the Dragon Oct 01, 2007
By Caroline Caldwell
The book is interesting but there is no direct relation between the Order of the Dragon and the themes discussed. The author could have said all he desired in about one hundred pages. It is highly repetitive. The title should have been just "The Other History" or "Heterodoxy versus Orthodoxy". A good accumulation of information on dualism but I was expecting a revelation about the Order of the Dragon and not an other story on heterodoxy.
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